How do we retain an optimistic viewpoint when so many troubling things are happening in the world?

Playwright, poet, and author Irene O’Garden returns to In the Balance to discuss the ingredients to maintaining optimism, compassion, and hope. She encourages us to listen with our heart, not to question moments of “gladness,” and to never doubt that optimism always lies within. 

How do we let beauty in while we’re suffering? How do we let truth in when we’re afraid? How do we weather the storm when we feel like we are about to drown?

Susan talks with NY Times best-selling author, poet, and philosopher Mark Nepo about beauty, truth, fear and his process of looking inward in order to rise and meet the daring and dangerous outer world we now find ourselves in.